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Piezo
Inscrit le 11-02-2006
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Posté le 22-01-2007 19:57

Une attaque d'un réseau, passe en premier lieu par la discrétion, dans le but d'observer l'architecture du réseau discrètement et d'établir un plan d'attaque. bruteforcer le premier login venu, n'est pas la bonne solution...

La première attaque est plus facile et, moins repérable sur un poste utilisateur. La plupart du temps on installe un programme qui se connectera à un PC distant, celui du pirate.

Facile a dire, mais il y a deux problèmes à contourner :

Installation : 1. Le programme ne doit pas être détecté par les anti-virus. La meilleur solution est de le coder soit même...
2. Le programme doit être indépendant du compte de l'utilisateur, et tourner en permanence sur la machine. Pour cela, il faut soit avoir accès au exécutables de la machine ou à la base de registre. Si les droits des fihcier vous l'interdisent, il faut chercher a obtenir un compte administrateur. Dans mon lycée, la chargement du compte est effectué par GUNT, il y a peut-être moyen de le corrompre...

Connections :
3. Dans tout les cas, je peut vous dire que TOUT les ports vers l'extérieur sont bloqués. S'il subsiste le port http ou ftp, c'est qu'il sont dropé par un proxy transparent. Il sera donc nécessaire de passer à travers. En rejoignant le point 1., on peut programmer le protocole de transfert de notre programme pour qu'il ressemble à de l'http, avec des données descendantes en POST, et montantes dans le contenu. Le client (en reverse, forcement) du pirate agis alors comme un serveur http qui reçoit les connexions, et envoie des réponses http.
Il existe bien HTTPTunnel, mais il est souvent détecté comme malware par les anti-virus.
Une connections par les ports de données FTP peut être plus rentable...

Une fois sur un PC, on peut bénéficier d'un accès réseaux privilégiés aux machines réseaux.

Il faut ensuite improviser, tout les cous étant permis, par exemple :
- Keylogger (+ éventuellement fausse panne provoqué) pour récupérer des mots de passes de maintenance.
- Attaque locale du serveur de login (GUNT, ESU, ldap, etc). Les PC utilisateurs doivent forcement y avoir un quelconque accès réseau.
- Remonter de fils en aiguille sur le réseau ce qui na rien de simple, vu le nombre de routeurs et de subnets...
- ...

Je le répète, il faut rester discret et sobre sur un réseaux distant. Il est nécessaire d'avoir un minimum de patience!

Je finirais par dire que la faille derrière la machine, c'est l'administrateur. Il ne s'en doute pas la plupart du temps. User de psychologie permet de dissimuler ses attaques et d'obtenir des renseignements rapidement.

Lorsque vous hacker un système, faite le pour un but précis, personnel ou non, mais pas juste pour détruire. Penser à ces admin, qui n'ont sûrement rien a voir avec le prof qui vous a collé deux zéros et une heure...
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mouhaha
Inscrit le 13-02-2007
Posté le 13-02-2007 21:15

Je n'aurai qu'une chose à dire sur tout ce que je viens de lire :

ha ha ha ha !

C'est pas du troll, je suis vraiment MDR, merci pour ce bon moment.

Surtout à toi AMS c'est cool de se la péter ici

[ Ce Message a été édité par: mouhaha le 2007-02-13 21:16 ]
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jehv
Inscrit le 29-08-2006
Posté le 14-02-2007 14:37

quand meme , quand tu voit le nombre de machine transformer en ftp divx sur le reseaux renater , tu te dit que la secu il y pensent surement , mais il y a aussi les competences des admin de l'epoque des cartes a perforee qu'il faut revoir
et je parle meme pas des machines qui se tranforme en rebond pour la duree d'une attaque .
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Psykocrash
Inscrit le 14-05-2006
Posté le 17-02-2007 01:20

Quote:

Le 22-01-2007 19:57, Piezo a écrit :
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Connections :
3. Dans tout les cas, je peut vous dire que TOUT les ports vers l'extérieur sont bloqués.


Pas d'accord. Y'a au moins un port qui n'est pas bloqué : C'est le port 53 en UDP pour la résolution des DNS. A défaut d'avoir un port en TCP autorisé pour les connexions sortantes, tu peux te rabattre sur le 53 en UDP.
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Borax
Inscrit le 24-08-2001
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Posté le 18-02-2007 20:24

D'un autre coté, peux tu m'expliquer à quoi sert DNS s'il n'y a pas le moindre autre protocole autorisé ? Pratique de connaitre l'adresse IP d'un FQDN sans pouvoir lui envoyer le moindre packet
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