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lenettoyeur
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Posté le 12-02-2009 15:58

Salut @ tous ! Je m'en remets à vous car je n'ai pas bien compris certains points par rapport au calcul de masque de sous-réseau. Mes questions sont les suivantes :

1. Comment, à partir d'une IP de classe A, B, C puis-je diviser mon réseau ?

Exemple, j'ai une IP en 192.168.10.0 et je souhaite créer 3 sous-réseaux, comment faire ?

Ceci implique la question suivante :

2. Et si on me pose la question : "J'aimerais 40 machines par sous-réseau, en combien de SR dois-je diviser mon réseau ?", comment résoudre ?

Si vous avez des réponses à mes questions je suis prenreur.
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clanger
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Posté le 12-02-2009 18:53

Quote:

1. Comment, à partir d'une IP de classe A, B, C puis-je diviser mon réseau ?

Exemple, j'ai une IP en 192.168.10.0 et je souhaite créer 3 sous-réseaux, comment faire ?

2. Et si on me pose la question : "J'aimerais 40 machines par sous-réseau, en combien de SR dois-je diviser mon réseau ?", comment résoudre ?



40 machines + 2 IP réservées (1 pour l'adresse du sous-réseau et 1 pour l'adresse de diffusion) = 42 IP
On recherche la puissance de 2 supérieure ou égale à 42, c'est 64 = 2 ^ 6 (on pourrait prendre plus grand, mais pas plus petit). Cela nous fait 6 bits d'adressage dans notre sous-réseau pour lequel on va donc avoir un masque de 32-6 = 26 bits.

Au final, ton réseau en 192.168.10.0/24 peut se découper en 4 sous réseaux:
192.168.10.0/26
192.168.10.64/26 (on retrouve notre puissance de 2)
192.168.10.128/26 (on ajoute 64 à chaque fois...)
192.168.10.192/26

Personnellement je préfère voir l'histoire du masque réseau comme un AND binaire d'assembleur, c'est logique.
26 pour 26 bits à 1 les 6 derniers à 0 ce qui fait un total de 32 bits que l'on sépare en tranches de 8 pour former des octets:
en binaire 11111111 11111111 11111111 11000000
en décimal 255 255 255 192
Ainsi 192.168.10.0/26 correspond à 192.168.10.0 avec le masque 255.255.255.192
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lenettoyeur
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Posté le 13-02-2009 08:35

Merci clanger, cela répond à ma question n°2 et en partie à la première. A présent, admettons que je n'ai nul besoin de savoir combien de machines il y aura par SR, mais j'aimerais uniquement segmenter mon réseau en 3 SR comment dois-je m'y prendre ?

PS: merci beaucoup pour ton explication et ta patience
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clanger
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Posté le 13-02-2009 12:27

C'est encore une histoire de puissances de 2:
Pour 3 sous-réseaux, on recherche la puissance de 2 supérieure ou égale à 3, c'est 4 = 2^2 ce qui signifie qu'on va rallonger le masque de 2 (l'exposant dans 2^2). Ainsi d'un réseau en 192.168.10.0/24 on vas passer à des sous-réseaux en /26 (de 24+2=26) qui laisseront ((IPv4:32bits) 32-26 = 6) 2^6 = 64 adresses au total moins l'adresse du réseau et l'adresse de diffusion, soit 2^6-2=64-2=62 IP affectables aux machines.
A noter que dans cet exemple il reste un sous-réseau inutilisé.

Pour les adresses des sous réseaux on démarre à 0 et on progresse par pas de 64 ip, ce qui donne:

* 192.168.10.0/26
* 192.168.10.64/26
* 192.168.10.128/26
* 192.168.10.192/26

Je viens de voir la page de wikipedia, elle me semble bien faite: Sous-Réseau.
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lenettoyeur
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Posté le 13-02-2009 13:43

Et dans le cas où je ne sais pas combien il y a de sous-réseau ?

PS: on va dire que t'es mon wiki à moi, car wikipédia c'est bien sympa mais un chouilla pas explicatif
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Et dans le cas où je ne sais pas combien il y a de sous-réseau ?



Si on reprend l'exemple du 192.168.10.0/24 on a alors comme possibilités:
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* 192.168.10.0/24 avec 2^(24-24)=1 sous-réseau (cas particulier où le sous-réseau est le réseau tout entier)
* 192.168.10.0/25 avec 2^(25-24)=2 sous-réseaux ayant chacun 2^(32-25)-2=128-2=126 IP affectables.
* 192.168.10.0/26 avec 2^(26-24)=4 sous-réseaux ayant chacun 2^(32-26)-2=64-2=62 IP affectables.
* 192.168.10.0/27 avec 2^(27-24)=8 sous-réseaux ayant chacun 2^(32-27)-2=32-2=30 IP affectables.
* 192.168.10.0/28 avec 2^(28-24)=16 sous-réseaux ayant chacun 2^(32-28)-2=16-2=14 IP affectables.
* 192.168.10.0/29 avec 2^(29-24)=32 sous-réseaux ayant chacun 2^(32-29)-2=8-2=6 IP affectables.
* 192.168.10.0/30 avec 2^(30-24)=64 sous-réseaux ayant chacun 2^(32-30)-2=4-2=2 IP affectables.
Pour 192.168.10.0/31 il n'y a plus d'IP d'affectable, même si on pourrait parler encore de sous-réseau.


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lenettoyeur
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Pour tout ceux qui ont le même problème, je vous conseille également cette page : http://fr.wikibooks.org/wiki/R%C3%A9seaux_TCP/IP_:_adressage_IP_v4
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jehv
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ou si vous etes comme moi utiliser la calculatrice speciale de nirsoft ou celui de cisco
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Pas pratique quand on a pas le droit à des calculatrices programmables pendant l'examen ^^
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Le 17-02-2009 22:09, lenettoyeur a écrit :
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Pas pratique quand on a pas le droit à des calculatrices programmables pendant l'examen ^^


Quel examen si ça n'est pas indiscret ?
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Examen Module 129 ... Un cours de ma formation en informatique ... système suisse ^^ (I-CH)
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