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Virus & Anti-Virus >> Affaire Guillermito vs. Tegam (Viguard) Newtopic | Reply
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tweakie
Inscrit le 01-02-2002
Posté le 08-03-2005 19:06

Damned, un p*tain de proxy transparent m'empechait de voir une version a jour de la page.
Quelques precisions :
- l'affaire ne sera pas inscrite a son casier judiciaire
- les interets civils (les dommages et interets reclames par Tegam) seront juges le 12 Avril.
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Aegis
Inscrit le 19-05-2003
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Posté le 09-03-2005 13:28

Quote:

Le 08-03-2005 19:06, tweakie a écrit :
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- les interets civils (les dommages et interets reclames par Tegam) seront juges le 12 Avril.


900 000 euros qu'ils réclament !!
Hu !
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bib0
Inscrit le 25-02-2005
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Posté le 09-03-2005 13:35

Salut à tous,

Tiens apparemment, ce procès provoque également qqs réactions en dehors de nos frontières

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Subject: [Dailydave] Fwd: [News] Full Disclosure français - Guillermito condamné à 5.000 euros d'amende
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 02:50:30 +0700
From: Anthony Zboralski <bcs2005@bellua.com>
To: dailydave <dailydave@lists.immunitysec.com>

Poor France!

Full disclosure frenchie was condemned today and got a suspended fine of 5000 EUR (USD 6623), which he won't have to pay as long if he doesn't piss off anyone else for the next 5 years.

I am quite happy I left France, 4 years ago. This country isn't funny anymore.

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sirius_black
Inscrit le 05-07-2003
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Posté le 09-03-2005 14:40

aussi dans la newsletter de Astalavista :
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[ FULL DISCLOSURE PUT ON TRIAL IN FRANCE ]

The trial of a French security researcher last week has become a cause
celebre. Its outcome will decide if interested parties can "peek under the bonnet"
in testing the road-worthiness of security products without falling foul
of French law.

The case began more than three years ago when Guillaume Tena (AKA Guillermito)
released proof of concept code to highlight security bypass and worm
evasion flaws in Viguard, an antivirus product, from
French company Tegam. Tena produced exploits showing that Tegam's generic
anti-virus failed to stop "100 per cent of known and unknown viruses" as
claimed. He posted his findings to a French usenet newsgroup in the summer of
2001 before published the research on a website in March 2002.

More information can be found at:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/12/full_disclosure_french_trial/

Astalavista's comments:

The highly important trial for the security community
is nothing more than a pissed off company who claims 100% protection
against known and unknown viruses - something I doubt even a market
leader as Symantec would claim, simply because it's not possible. Although I
have some reserves on full disclusure, isn't the ultimate goal to show which
products you can really trust? Those who claim quality and don't actually
deliver it, and those who are so aware/unaware of how their products work
in order to release a working patch in a timely manner and actually distribute
it to their customers???



puis aussi une très courte news dans le 29a-8 (Guillermito was sued by Tegam, a french antivirus company for proving they were fooling customers in their publicity.)
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sirius_black
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http://www.kitetoa.com/Pages/Textes/Textes/25012005-Tegam_versus_Guillermito/09032005-tegam-versus-guillermito-delibere.shtml

http://maitre.eolas.free.fr/journal/index.php?2005/03/08/87-guillermito-condamne-mais-tres-legerement
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x-or
Inscrit le 29-11-2004
Posté le 16-03-2005 14:45

http://www.k-otik.com/actualite/20050316.TenaFullD.php
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tweakie
Inscrit le 01-02-2002
Posté le 16-03-2005 19:06

D'habitute, je suis assez d'accord avec les commentaires d'Eolas mais sur ce coup la j'aurais plutot tendance a partager l'avis de k-otik. Rien dans le jugenent n'indique que l'issue aurait ete differente si Guillermito n'avait pas utilise' une version warez.
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sirius_black
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Posté le 04-04-2005 14:16

http://maitre.eolas.free.fr/journal/index.php?2005/04/02/107-guillermito-fait-appel-de-sa-condamnation
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tweakie
Inscrit le 01-02-2002
Posté le 09-06-2005 23:14

http://maitre.eolas.free.fr/journal/index.php?2005/06/07/143-delibere-guillermito-sur-les-interets-civils#co


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Aegis
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Posté le 10-06-2005 18:38

Triste...
Enfin Antoine Vermeersch a tout dit, ou du moins je partage son avis.

Guillermito a pris des risques en ayant recours :/
3 fois plus qu'en mars quoi...
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tweakie
Inscrit le 01-02-2002
Posté le 11-06-2005 21:11

Attention ! Ca n'est pas le resultat de l'appel (qui n'a de toutes facons pas encore ete' juge'). C'est le resultat du proces au civil.

En mars, c'etait une amende etait avec sursis (potentiellement payable a l'etat si recidive). La, c'est des dommages et interets a payer a Tegam et a Eyal Dotan.
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SidJin
Inscrit le 26-06-2005
Posté le 27-06-2005 08:59

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tweakie
Inscrit le 01-02-2002
Posté le 18-11-2005 14:59

A lire :

Un excellent article de Jean-Marc Manach paru aujourd'hui sur le sujet.

http://www.internetactu.net/?p=6211
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sirius_black
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Posté le 18-11-2005 15:47

ouep ça résume bien toute l'affaire avec quelques bons liens à l'intérieur
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sirius_black
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Posté le 18-11-2005 15:49

Quand je vois les histoire de terroristes, de FBI, de DST qui sortent de la bouche de TEGAM j'en viens à me demander une chose... Amistadman travaillerait-il pour eux ?
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tweakie
Inscrit le 01-02-2002
Posté le 27-11-2005 23:46

RAPPEL

Le proces en appel aura lieu ce mardi, a 13h30 (i.e. dans l'apres-midi) au palais de justice de Paris.

J'essairai d'y etre...
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